Several weeks before she died, Gwen visited a psychic. Years later, Natasha also visited a psychic, in an attempt to figure out what her mother may have taken away from her visit to a medium. Natasha’s friend, Cynthia, made an appointment. Natasha, who paid 150 dollars for the visit, figured that the psychic would probably Google her if she made the appointment herself and gave her real name. So, Cynthia said that the appointment was for a Cassandra. When they arrived at the psychic’s apartment, Cynthia introduced Natasha as “Cassie.”

The psychic was British and offered Natasha and Cynthia tea as soon as they arrived. When they began, Natasha recorded the conversation on her phone. The psychic asked if the months of January and August meant anything. Natasha said that these were Joel and Joey’s respective birth months. He then asked if anyone in Natasha’s family traveled frequently. She told him that Rick was in the navy, though she didn’t specify that it was the Canadian navy, and that her father died in 2014. She added that he had sailed around the world. Natasha sensed that the psychic was trying to figure out her race.